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,000 working pr people in the pentagon spending $4.7 billion a year. 27,000? where do you get that number? >> guest: it's a number that includes -- it's a broader number not just sort of the propaganda folks. but advertising but everyone shaping the message from the pentagon. it goes from software programs and social media, there's been a recent example where the army is using a program that monitors how many times bradley manning is mentioned. the we can i can leeks -- wick key leeks -- that all branches of the military have. i mean, there are more i have thought about this. there are more public relations people on a general staff in kabul than reporters in kabul in afghanistan. c-span: do you ever ask why? >> guest: they need the help they can get. even with the message machine, they haven't been able to put too positive of a spin on it. c-span: you say i hate this war. did you hate the iraq war? >> guest: yes, yeah. c-span: did you hate afghanistan war? >> i learn to hate war in general. i mean, not -- it would be very difficult for me having been through a number of things with both
to fix this problem. a week later we screened at the pentagon, hosted by the u.s. surgeon general. she said this film is going to propel us how we practice health care in the military. that's powerful stuff. but i am most optimistic about if i don't know if we can weep for change to happen in washington. i don't know if we can weep for national change. but i must to mistake about this change happening at a local level, community by community, clinic to clinic. >> final clip for a discussion. dr. nissen from the cleveland clinic. >> the commercials on television, why do we need to wait? we can take a pill right now. >> when i watch the networks, half the answer for pharmaceutical agents. the >> it's not sure canada, united kingdom, france, germany. the only other countries new zealand. new zealand and united states or the other two countries to advertise prescription drugs. what does that do? it drives demand. the ads always end with the same phrase. ask your doctor. and people do. and doctors wanting to please patients who often prescribe it. c-span: do you know when they started, havi
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